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NCAA Rules Oklahoma Sooners Football Must Forfeit Wins from 2005
by CriticalFanatic
7/11/07

What 2005 season? Congratulations to the 2006 Holiday Bowl Champion Oregon Ducks (not really).

It was a season most Sooner fans wanted to forget anyway, and now it's official. Well at least as far as the wins are concerned, those 8 joyous Saturday's never happened.
The Oklahoma football program must forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.

The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.

Crimson and Cream Machine has the classic Sooner response:

So in the entire scheme of things what does all this mean? Nothing! The 2007 football season is going to happen and the Oklahoma Sooners are going to be Big 12 and national title contenders, and even stronger in 2008. Vacating wins from a bad season doesn't really bother me not losing any additional scholarships delights me. All in all I am extremely happy with the verdict and I am sure the University of Oklahoma is as well.

Burnt Orange Nation, as you might assume, has the best response:

You already knew that OU was a dirty, filthy, cheating farce of a program, but now it's official. I propose a toast to "Big Game" Bob Stoops. Hip hip - hooray!

Boomer Sooner!

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So from what I have read it looks like in 2005 OU had a 0-4 season. So if OU has to give up its wins and in theory the other teams get to have them, does Baylor, Texas A&M, and Kansas State get to declare that they actually were bowl eligible in 2005 and missed out on potential bowl money and ask the NCAA to give them the cash they could have earned by making it to a bowl and were summarily deprived of due to OU's transgressions? And With Nebraska picking up a conference win in 2005 they would have been tied with Colorado for the North and could have had a shot at the Big12 championship game and also a BCS birth (albeit they would have gotten hammered by Texas) can they go back and get their chance. I don't think so, retroactively taking wins away does nothing at all but make the fan base very mad at the NCAA. With all that said, I am a student at OU and a Die-Hard fan and yes, that season wasn't one most of the bandwagon fans wanted to forget but I know I was very proud of the way that team that season. David Boren and Bob Stoops released a statement today saying that they would appeal the decision that the NCAA gave today.
 
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So from what I have read it looks like in 2005 OU had a 0-4 season. So if OU has to give up its wins and in theory the other teams get to have them, does Baylor, Texas A&M, and Kansas State get to declare that they actually were bowl eligible in 2005 and missed out on potential bowl money and ask the NCAA to give them the cash they could have earned by making it to a bowl and were summarily deprived of due to OU's transgressions? And With Nebraska picking up a conference win in 2005 they would have been tied with Colorado for the North and could have had a shot at the Big12 championship game and also a BCS birth (albeit they would have gotten hammered by Texas) can they go back and get their chance. I don't think so, retroactively taking wins away does nothing at all but make the fan base very mad at the NCAA. With all that said, I am a student at OU and a Die-Hard fan and yes, that season wasn't one most of the bandwagon fans wanted to forget but I know I was very proud of the way that team that season. David Boren and Bob Stoops released a statement today saying that they would appeal the decision that the NCAA gave today.

Pretty harsh penalty. Interesting angle on Nebraska and their Big12 title game aspirations, that Nebraska team did beat Colorado 30-3 and went on to beat Michigan in the Alamo Bowl.  I'm sure this subject will be debated on a lot of boards now.

 

My condolences to Sooner fans, you should all boycott that dealership and put them out of business. Also, if any other boosters are involved in this type of behavior concerning your team, do something about. It makes me sick that people outside of the program can cause so much damage to the program, same can be said for that slimeball agent that gave Reggie Bush's family a house to live in. USC fans should make his life so miserable that he is forced to leave the state.
 
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Pretty harsh penalty. Interesting angle on Nebraska and their Big12 title game aspirations, that Nebraska team did beat Colorado 30-3 and went on to beat Michigan in the Alamo Bowl.  I'm sure this subject will be debated on a lot of boards now.

 

My condolences to Sooner fans, you should all boycott that dealership and put them out of business. Also, if any other boosters are involved in this type of behavior concerning your team, do something about. It makes me sick that people outside of the program can cause so much damage to the program, same can be said for that slimeball agent that gave Reggie Bush's family a house to live in. USC fans should make his life so miserable that he is forced to leave the state.

Well a lot of that happened right back at the beginning of the school year in 05 but that guy had already sold it and the new management hung a huge sign on the dealership that said "UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT". It was really bad at the beginning though for the dealership.
 
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(Edited 07/11/07 6:40PM by Todd)

The Sooners now have those two "players" to thank for ruining everything Oklahoma has built over the years, but they deserve what is now being handed to them.

 

And leave it to CF to not give Oregon any credit for almost beating Oklahoma legitimately in the 2005 Holiday Bowl.  If it weren't for the last minute interception, I'd still be wearing my bowl-game championship shirt proudly.  Now it seems, the Ducks deserve the win, and rightfully so. 

 
 
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The Sooners now have those two "players" to thank for ruining everything Oklahoma has built over the years, but they deserve what is now being handed to them.

 

And leave it to CF to not give Oregon any credit for almost beating Oklahoma legitimately in the 2005 Holiday Bowl.  If it weren't for the last minute interception, I'd still be wearing my bowl-game championship shirt proudly.  Now it seems, the Ducks deserve the win, and rightfully so. 

 

Dont gloat your program could be next.
 
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Todd wrote:

The Sooners now have those two "players" to thank for ruining everything Oklahoma has built over the years, but they deserve what is now being handed to them.

 

And leave it to CF to not give Oregon any credit for almost beating Oklahoma legitimately in the 2005 Holiday Bowl.  If it weren't for the last minute interception, I'd still be wearing my bowl-game championship shirt proudly.  Now it seems, the Ducks deserve the win, and rightfully so. 

 

I'm still going to wear my Holiday Bowl Champs t-shirt Todd.  
 
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Dont gloat your program could be next.

For what?  The Ducks have served their time in the tickets-for-rent scandal.  Probation served and passed.  Try again.